next door was a jesuit priest who live next door, father of carney and i think he was the president manager of the architect and he had marbles. and i remember a day, they were both kneeling down on the floor in our room rolling marbles and i thought well this is pretty cool. my mother was a marbles champion in 1935. [laughter] so i could relate to this but i didn't realize. that is the kind of thing that we were exposed to. [inaudible] [laughter] >> that's right and that was a happy memory. >> it was very difficult. we felt that there had been too many, all of the black students had been identified and only a fraction of the white students who took part in the demonstration so we felt that there was overt racism and we were going to support all of the students. and i remember thinking what am i going to do? how my going to explain this to my parents? you know, what is going to go on? but then, over that weekend, the people realized how important was and father brooks and ted and clarence all got together and discuss this and talked and eventually they worked everything out. but you know, j